Open Theism Bible Verses (Draft List)

DRAFT list as of Dec. 1, 2017 (being updated throughout the month following the Duffy/Slick debates)


1 - God Wants His Prophecies of Judgment to Fail
I say you shall die, but repent so that you will not die Ezek. 33:14-15; when I say I will destroy a nation, if it repents I will not destroy the nation "that I thought" to destroy Jer. 18:7-8,11 (that is God's interpretation of The Potter and the Clay passage, however many rejected God's warning by elevating prophecy Jer. 18:18 above God Himself. And God affirmed the inverse, When I say that I will bless a nation if they disobey Me I will not do that which I said I will do Jer. 18:9-10; so contradicting the Calvinist interpretation, this meaning is exactly why God quotes Jer. 18 in Rom. 9); repent so that God will repent (not of sin, of course, but) of the calamity and doom that He had purposed and pronounced that He would do; Jer. 26:3, 13; I will judge you, so repent, because why should you die Ezek. 18:30-31; "God repented from the disaster that He said He would bring upon [Nineveh] and He did not do it" Jonah 3:10. Why didn't He? Because God is great and the Bible says that love is greater than both prophecy (and exhaustive foreknowledge) and knowledge (omniscience) 1 Cor. 13:2; Jonah 4:11; (plus all the repented of judgment verses)

2 - God Exists in Time through duration
Jesus is waiting until His enemies are made His footstool Heb. 10:13 with the related passages Ps. 110:1; Mat. 22:44; Luke 20:43; Acts 2:35; Heb. 1:13; John 1:14; weary of repenting Jer. 15:6. See also the scores of passages describing God as Him who: is - and was - and is to come - Whose goings forth are from of old, from everlasting - Forever and ever - The Ancient of Days - From before the ages of the ages - From ancient times - the everlasting God - He continues forever - From of old - Remains forever - Immortal - The Lord shall endure forever - Who lives forever - God’s years - manifest in His own time - Everlasting Father - Alive forevermore - Always lives - Forever - Continually - God’s years never end - From everlasting to everlasting - From that time forward, even forever - And of His kingdom there will be no end; [and see the related verses below showing that time exists in heaven]

3 - God has qualities that can only be had if He exists in time, like patience, slow to anger, and hope.
Patience: 1 Peter 3:20; Ex. 34:6; Num. 14:18; Neh. 9:30; Ps. 86:15; Rom. 2:4; 9:22; 1 Tim. 1:16; 1 Peter 3:20; 2 Peter 3:9, 15; Jer. 15:15; and "God is Love" 1 John 4:8, 16 and "Love is patient" 1 Cor. 13:4 and He is "the God of patience" Rom. 15:5 etc.
Endurance: God endured His people’s cries Luke 18:7; the wicked Rom. 9:22; hostility Heb. 12:3; the cross Heb. 12:2
Slow to anger and long-suffering: Neh. 9:17; Ps. 103:8; 145:8; Joel 2:13; Jonah 4:2; Nah. 1:3;
Sustain emotion: I will not remain angry forever Jer. 3:12
Faithfulness: from everlasting to everlasting He endures in faithfulness for He is "the faithful God" Deut 7:9; possessing great faithfulness Lam. 3:23; Ps. 36:5; 37:3; 71:22; Ps. 89:24; God's faithfulness is not an inability (because He cannot change) but an ability (which He must actively maintain) Ps. 89:33; 92:2; 98:3; 119:75; 119:90; 143:1; Isa. 11:5; 25:1; Hos. 2:20; 
Hope: for hope that is seen is not hope, yet God hopes Romans 8:24 & 15:13 (and all the “expectation” verses like Isa. 5:1-4; Jer. 3:7; Zeph. 3:7; Jer. 18)

4 - God Acting In Sequence (showing He’s in time)
Gen. 2:1; God waited while ark was being prepared 1 Peter 3:20; speaks in heaven 1 Kings 22:19-20; [when He allegedly "enters" into time Gen - Rev]; the Son waits in heaven till his enemies are subdued Heb. 10:13; God the Son went from not having a body John 4:24, to indwelling a form Gen. 3:8; 18:1-3; etc., to taking on a human body Luke 1:31, to having a glorified body Phil 3:21

5 - Sequence Within the Godhead
[relationship; sharing glory; planning things; humbling Himself; becoming things; becoming the Father of a Son with two natures; Father increasing, as in favor with His Son]

6 - God Says Certain Things Happened that Never Entered His Mind
They burn their sons with fire for burnt offerings which I did not command or speak nor did it come into My mind Jer. 19:5; they cause their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire to Molech which I did not command them nor did it come into My mind that they should do this abomination to cause Judah to sin Jer. 32:35; they burn their sons and their daughters in the fire to sacrifice them which I did not command nor did it come into My heart Jer. 7:31; [For other sins like adultery and theft God never says, It didn't enter My mind and I didn't command it. So why say this regarding child sacrifice? First, He did command the sacrificial system. And second, He commanded Abraham to offer up his son Gen. 22:2; Heb. 11:17. (God prevented that from happening. But 2000 years later the Father Himself would offer up His Son Rom. 8:32 and on that very same 2 Chron. 3:1.) Thus God made two things abundantly clear. Back when He ordered Abraham to demonstrate the kind of love (commitment) that the Father Himself would later demonstrate (Rom. 5:8), first, He certainly had not commanded that men sacrifice their children, and secondly, it hadn't even entered His mind that men would actually do such a thing. See also Lev. 18:21; 20:2-5; Deut. 12:31; 18:9-10; 2 Kings 3:27; 2 Kings 16:3; 17:17, 31; 21:6; 23:10; 2 Chr. 28:3; 33:6; Ps. 106:35-38; Isa 57:5; Ezek. 16:20-21; 20:26, 31; 23:37]

7 - God Indicates the Future is Uncertain (by saying perhaps, etc.)
Perhaps everyone will repent so that I can repent of the destruction that I purposed to bring upon them. Jer. 26:1-3; Lest perhaps the people change their mind and return to Egypt Ex. 13:17; if Egyptians don’t believe Moses’ first sign Ex. 4:8-9; now nothing they propose to do Gen. 11:6; perhaps Israel will repent; Israel might repent Ezek. 12:3; [Ezek. 7:23-26; Mark 6:48-49; Luke 24:28]

8 - God Says He Changes His Mind (He says that He repents, not from sin of course, but from what He had intended)
Gen. 6:4-6; Ex. 32; Num. 14; Ex. 32:14 (including ); Judges 2:18 (in the Hebrew); the repent sandwich with Saul (1 Sam. 15:11, 29, 35); 2 Sam. 24:16; 1 Chr. 21:15; Ps. 106:45; 135:14 (in the Hebrew); Jonah 3:10; 4:2; weary of repenting Jer. 15:6; 18:8; perhaps Israel will repent so I can repent 26:3, 13, 19; 42:10; Destroy Jerusalem by Micah’s prophecy Micah 3:12 with Jer. 26-18-19; Joel 2:13; the Lord repented Amos 7:3, 6; repents from judgment Jonah 4:2; [says that He is willing to repent of that which He said He would do, that which He thought He would do Jer. 18:7,11]

9 - God Says Things Are Possible that’d be Impossible If the Future Were Settled or Decreed
Lest God consume Israel on the way Ex. 33:3; call for 12 legions of Angels Mat. 26:53; believers could resist any temptation 1 Cor. 10:13; creating children from stones; destroy Israel and raise up a new nation Num. 14:12; Destroy Nineveh; God doesn’t bring the people by a certain route, so they don’t go back to Egypt Ex. 13:17; I could come up in one moment and consume you Ex. 33:5; destroy the land Ezek. 22:30; Eli’s sons could have ministered forever 1 Sam. 2:30; Saul’s perpetual dynasty 1 Sam. 13:13-14 & 2 Sam. 7:15; totally destroy Jerusalem 1 Chr. 21:11-12, 15; destroy a nation that later repented Jer. 18:7-8, bless a nation that later does evil 18:9-10; Jer. 26:6?; bake really gross cake Ezek. 4:12; destroy the Israelites while still in Egypt Ezek. 20:8, and in the wilderness 20:13-14, 17; He says He will give the the righteous shall surely live, but he shall die Ezek. 33:12; and then the children in the wilderness 20:21-22; destroy Jerusalem by Micah’s prophecy Micah 3:12 with Jer. 26-18-19; Hezekiah is about to die Isa. 38:1; 2 Kings 20:1; God would have healed (blessed) Israel but for their sin Hos. 7:1; God hardens people’s hearts (against what?), so that they wouldn’t do the things that they couldn’t do anyway, if everything had been decreed Ex. 4:21; 9:12; 10:20, 27; 11:10; 14:4, 8, 17; Deut. 2:30; Josh. 11:20; 1 Sam. 6:6; John 12:40; the wicked "limited the Holy One of Israel" from doing what He otherwise would have done Ps. 78:41; [Mat. 18:6]; because of the unbelief of the Nazarenes Jesus did not do many miracles among them like He would have done Mat. 13:58; (plus other passages that appear with the Repent verses and those that appear in the next category of God Said He’ll Do Something He Never Does)

10 - God Says He Will Do Something that He Never Does
Without fail cast out the Canaanites Josh 3:10 with Deut. 7:1, 23, Jud. 2:1, 20-23, 3:5, 10; Ex. 32:10; 33:2, 3; Deut. 12:29; Judges 2:3; 10:13; calamity on Ahab 1 Kings 21:21 & 29; said He would destroy Israelites but did not Ps. 106:23; destroy a nation Jer. 18:7-8; destroy the Hebrews while still in Egypt Ezek. 20:8, and while in the wilderness 20:13-14, 17, and then the children in the wilderness 20:21-22; destroy Jerusalem by Micah’s prophecy Micah 3:12 with Jer. 26-18-19

11 - God Expects Something That Doesn’t Happen
Israel would repent; Isa. 5:1-4 (What more could I have done? decreed it?); Jer. 3:7 Israel will return to Me Jer. 3:7 (in the Hebrew); Zeph. 3:7; Jer. 18 destruction I thought I would do; Surely they are (would act like) My people Isa. 63:8-10; Jer. 18:7-8

12 - God Increases and Learns (for He must increase)
The Father’s favor grows toward His son Luke 2:52; the Son increases in natures John 1:14, He learned obedience Heb. 5:8; He was tempted Heb. 4:15 (within the constraints of James 1:13); He must increase John 3:30

13 - God Shows Regret
I greatly regret making Saul king (so God deposed him and gave the dynasty to David) 1 Sam. 15:11; the Lord repented that He had made man on the earth and was grieved (so He destroyed the earth's population except for Noah's family) Gen. 6:6-7

14 - God Wants to See What Man Will Do  Wants to Test Man / Didn’t Know What Men Would Do
Gen. 2:19; 22:12; Ex. 16:4; Deut. 8:2; 13:3; Judges 2:22; 3:4; Ex. 20:20; 2 Chr. 32:31; Ps. 17:3; Jonah 3:10

15 - God Does Not Have All Present Knowledge
Son of Man doesn’t know something the Father knows (day or hour) Mark 13:32; [Mat. 24:36]; God in a Christophany will go down to Sodom Gen. 18 (see experiential knowledge, below)

16 - God Intervenes to Prevent what would Otherwise Happen and addresses contingencies
Cherubim block the way to the Tree of Life lest Adam and Eve physically never die Gen. 3:22-24 by eating of the tree's super-nutritious fruit Rev. 22:2; The men of Babel will accomplish things that God wants to prevent them from accomplishing Gen. 11:5-8; [Ex. 13:17]; etc.

17 - God Indicates Certain Prophecies Will Go Unfulfilled (God Says What Will Happen, But It Doesn’t Happen)
Tyre & Egypt Ezek. 26:12; 29:18; etc. Without fail cast out the Canaanites Josh 3:10 with Deut. 7:1, 23, Jud. 2:1, 20-23, 3:5, 10; Ex. 32:10; 33:2, 3; Deut. 12:29; Judges 2:3; 10:13;

18 - God Gives Men Options and Recognizes that They Can Choose Among Them
Life or Death Deut. 30:19; Gen. 2:16? optional punishments to David 2 Sam. 24:12 & 1 Chr. 21:11-12; Ezek.18:30-32

19 - God Says He Does Not Know What Will Happen (similar to the perhaps category above)
Ex. 13:17; perhaps Israel will repent so that I can repent Jer. 26:3; how long until Israel repents Hos. 8:5; 

20 - God Says He Will No Longer Do Something He Said He Would Do
Isa. 5:1-6; Jer. 18; Drive out nations Joshua 23:13; Judge 2:21; Jonah

21 - God Did Things Before the Creation, Showing Sequence (Before the Foundation of the World / Before He Allegedly Created time)
Shared glory John 17:5, 24; Eph. 1:4-5 choose us in Him (planned!); 1 Peter 1:20 Christ foreknown before the foundation [even though we’re told, wrongly, that God can’t do anything in sequence]

22 - Things That God Became (He was not always these things, so if He wants to He can become such)
Man, God the Son “became flesh” John 1:14 (after saying He is not a man Hos. 11:9; 1 Sam. 15:29; Job 9:32; [Ps. 146:3]); became the Creator Gen. 1; became Sovereign (by creating); became perfected (as a Man) Heb. 5:9; became obedient to the point of death Phil. 2:8; became the Savior “I became your Savior” Isa. 63:8; Author of eternal salvation Heb. 5:9; and to do so Christ "became a curse for us" Gal. 3:13 and even "sin" 2 Cor. 5:21; the last Adam became a life-giving Spirit 1 Cor. 15:45;  became the possessor of a glorified body Phil. 3:21; etc.

23 - God’s People Believe God Can Change His Mind
Ex. 32:11-13; Sodom and Gomorrah Gen. 18: ; Moses Ps. 106:23

24 - God’s People Believed They Can Change God’s Mind (including as Jesus teaches)
Moses 32:11-13; Deut. 9:19; Moses Ps. 106:23; persistent widow Luke 18:4-7; Abraham with Lot and Sodom Gen. 18

25 - God’s People Believe a Prophecy Does Not Have to Come To Pass and the Future is Not Settled
Acts 21:11-12; Hezekiah 2 Kings 20; Moses Ex. 33:15-16; Acts 21:11-12

26 - The Bible Says Things Happen By Chance
By chance a certain priest Luke 10:31; Time and chance happen to them all Eccl. 9:11; Ruth by chance (see the Hebrew) happened upon the field Ruth 2:3; Paul reasoned with those who happened (see the Greek: chancing) to be there Acts 17:17

27 - The Bible Describes Men as Sovereign, Omniscient, and Having Foreknowledge (so these don’t require a settled future)
As Sovereign, Saul; as having All Knowledge Jn 2:20, and as Having Foreknowledge

28 - The Bible Shows that Time is in Heaven 
Jesus opened the seventh seal and then there was silence in heaven for about half an hour Rev. 8:1; martyrs in heaven (don't ask God to forgive those who killed them, but rather, lacking the false spirituality common on Earth), inherently acknowledging time in heaven, ask: "How long O Lord… until You… avenge our blood…?" Rev. 6:9; Greek philosophers denied that God was or will be and claimed He only "is", whereas God is "the One who is and who was and who is to come" and in heaven awaits the "time of the dead" when "they should be judged" 11:17-18; the tree of life bore twelve fruits, a different one each month Rev. 22:2; "this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down… from that time waiting till His enemies are defeated Heb. 10:12-13; As the LORD says, "I have held My peace a long time" Isa. 42:14; [Mat. 8:29]; [etc.; plus the scores of verses above describing God as existing in everlasting duration.]

29 - Prayer Can Change What Would Otherwise Be the Future
Jehoahaz pleaded and God listened 2 Kings 13:4; etc.

30 - God Gains Experiential Knowledge: Most Calvinists deny that God has all knowledge by rejected that He has or even can have experiential knowledge. Yet the Bible explicitly declares that God has experiential knowledge, as with the "go down and look" see for Myself verses, the Incarnation-related temptation verses, and the learned verses. (Similarly, by the unbiblical claim that God is outside of time, most Calvinists and even Arminians deny that He can know anything in sequence. So, unlike open theists, Calvinists view predestination and foreknowedge as mere figures of speech and not as literally true of God.) Thus, by denying that God has experiential knowledge, Calvinists do not believe Him omniscient, i.e., that He has all knowldege, for their theology inherently rejects that God can possess an entire category of knowledge, namely, experiential knowledge. Selah.

31 - The Bible Shows Certain Prophecies Will Not Be Fulfilled (unfulfilled prophecy)
Canaanites; Nebuchadnezzar taking Egypt?; etc. soon return verses (not have time to go through the villages of Israel; some standing here will not die until they see the Son of Man returning in power in His kingdom; this generation shall not pass until all these things take place; etc. (so the believers sold their land in early Acts)

32 - The Bible Shows Things Could Have Been Different
Saul’s throne 1 Sam. 13:13; Aaron’s two sons called to serve God forever Deut. 18:5 with Ex. 28:1 & Num. 26:61; Lev. 10 killed; Jerusalem totally destroyed by God’s angel 1 Chr. 21:15

33 - God Says What He Wants to Do, But Can’t or Doesn’t Do [or fit under other categories]
Sought a man who would, but I found no one Ezek. 22:30; Ex. 4:24 sought to kill Moses; kill Israel and start over with Moses; Wants Moses to speak but lets Aaron instead; to have Ezekiel eat gross bread Ezek. 4:12


Bonus Categories:
- Every Warning in Scripture
- Every Command in Sccripture
- Hundreds of Subjuntive Passages (the God-breathed scriptures that use the uncertainty mood of the Greek verb)

List of Top Seven Categories of Verses that Don’t Exist (from Will Duffy's opening statement in his first debate vs Matt Slick)
- That say God is outside of Time (timeless, in an eternal now, not was nor will be but only is, has no past, has no future)
- That say God knows everything that will ever happen
- That God can intervene in the past
- That God has decreed everything that will ever happen
- That God created time
- God exists in the past and or the future
- That God knew us before we were conceived.


[Created for the Will Duffy vs. Matt Slick Calvinism vs. Open Theism debates, Dec. 2017. At]